Does It Look Like a Deal?: 2/1 Mobile Home In a Park

Since I receive a lot of requests for more case studies, I thought I'd make another post for "Does It Look a Deal?"

(Note: While the "Deal or No Deal" case study series focuses on the mechanics of my thought process of evaluating mobile homes from beginning to end, this new case study series, "Does it Look Like a Deal," will focus more on a quick outside evaluation of mobile homes - I use this evaluation to prioritize the leads I pursue."

This lead came from a park manager in conversation while we were sitting in the office having coffee and donuts. (Guess who brought the coffee and donuts?)

(Note: What has worked for me with park managers is spending a lot of time with a select few I enjoy working with in nice, family style parks. For me, quality is more important that quantity. I don't mind spending a whole morning or afternoon with one park manager - it's building the relationship that counts. I see so many investors out there who try to "network" with everyone only to create mediocre relationships. For me, I've learned it's better to create a few really strong relationships than a lot of mediocre ones. Again, this is just my experience).

In any case, I learned from the park manager that this home was abandoned and taken back by the park. The park wanted to get rid of it.

They were trying to sell the home for $2500. But, the park manager told me I could have it if I just wanted to fix it up and start paying lot rent in a few months.

(Note: Now, some people may get excited about getting "free" homes in this business. But, for me "free" homes really mean expensive homes because most of these homes need a lot of work and take a lot of time to fix up. Though some have tackled these types of opportunities and have been successful at it, just by looking at the outside of the home I knew this was not my type of deal. For me personally, I'd rather spend my time on a home that needs less fix up and conforms to what the types of people I work with (usually families) are looking for (i.e. larger homes) that I know I can stand behind (i.e. support my product, know it's a good home) than something that needs a lot of fix-up work that is smaller and not really sure if I'd live in myself. Again, it's very important for me personally to be able to stand behind my product. If I cannot see myself living in the home (as well as living in the park), then I pass on the deal).

I "thanked" the park manager for letting me know about this opportunity. I told the park manager just from looking at the outside, it just really wasn't my kind of deal. The park manager understood - said someone could make something out of this but the park wasn't willing to give it away to just anyone, it had to be someone they knew and trusted to make it work.

So, as I write this the home is still sitting there in the park. No one really knows it's for sale as there is no "For Sale" sign. Again, most of the deals I work are "inside deals." In my experience, the key to being successful in this business is getting to the deals before everyone knows about them. And, that can only be done by building strong relationships. In the end, it's quality not quantity that counts.

Happy investing!

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Does it Look Like a Deal?: 2/1 Mobile Home In a Park

With the popularity of the "Deal or No Deal" case study series, I thought I'd start a new one here.

While the "Deal or No Deal" case study series focuses on the mechanics of my thought process of evaluating mobile homes from beginning to end, this new case study series, "Does it Look Like a Deal," will focus more on a quick outside evaluation of mobile homes - I use this evaluation to prioritize the leads I pursue.

When I first hear of a home for sale, I evaluate 2 things. First, the park. And, second - the home itself.

If the home is in a park that I'd live in myself and feel comfortable working in, then it passes the first test.

(Note: I've mentioned before I only work in high end parks now due to this situation. For me, it's all a matter of comfort level - I prefer high end parks due to the type of clientele it attracts. Figuring out which parks you choose to work in will depend on your personality and comfort level).

Second, I evaluate the home by doing a drive by.

(Note: This is where me and Lonnie differ. When a lead comes in from the park manager while in the park, Lonnie goes to the home and meets with the seller that day. For me, I like to do a drive by of the outside to see if it's even a home I'm interested in pursuing - I don't buy every home that comes up available, even if it's cheap).

Now, most of the homes I pursue have a certain look - they are usually bigger and newer compared to the traditional "Lonnie" deal. Why is this?

For me, I tend to evaluate these homes more from a homeowner type of mentality and the type of clientele I usually work with. I have to ask myself, "Would I (my clientele included) live in this home?"

My thought process is that if it's not a home that I would live in (see the value in), then why would someone else? There's an old saying that if you don't stand behind your product and believe in it, then it's going to be really hard to sell it to others.

Just by looking at the outside of a home, I can tell whether or not I want to pursue an opportunity. I use the drive by method to prioritize which homes will take priority and use of my time. I don't want to put all my time and effort into a home I really don't think I can sell to the type of clientele I usually work with despite the price - I've been down that road before. For me, cheap doesen't necessarily mean better especially when working in high end parks.

(Note: This is just my experience and preference of doing things. I'm sure some have had different experiences. This is just what has worked for me).

In any case, this lead (see pic above) came in from a park manager while I was at my favorite park (a plus!). The park manager told me the seller had just come in a few days ago to let him know that the home is for sale.

(Note: Usually, when a seller in a park decides to sell their home they must notify the park manager. Having a good relationship with park managers is key to success in this business).

The park manager told me the home is a 2 bedroom, 1 bath older style home. Though, it was originally a 1 bedroom - it was converted to a 2 bedroom. When I heard this, I became leary. Usually, I do not like homes that have had any type of conversion.

Moving along, the park manager went on to tell me the owner was asking $9500 for the home.

Now, I've said this before - the asking price does not matter. It really doesen't because everything can be negotiated.

I see a lot of folks out there who look for deals based on asking price. In most of the deals that I've worked, the seller had started at retail price. It was only through negotiating and really building rapport with the seller (aka earning trust) where I was able to negotiate win/win situations.

To some, $9500 on a home is too much. For me, $9500 on a home would be a great price for the type of home I usually buy. Again, it's very important to learn your market. Without knowing your market, it's going to be really difficult to evaluate opportunities.

In any case, after doing a drive by of the home I knew this was not something I wanted to pursue. It just didn't fit the "look" of the types of homes I buy. So, I told the park manager I'm not really interested in this one.

(Note: Remember, there are so many homes to choose from - it's a buyers market especially in this economy. The sellers have to sell but you don't necessarily have to buy).

After talking again with the park manager, I was made aware of another opportunity. This one was due to a divorce situation. The park manager said it's a bigger home, newer, and something maybe worth looking into. Here's a pic:



After doing a drive by, I knew right away this was a home I wanted to pursue. I am currently waiting for the park manager to set up a meeting as the seller is still finalizing their divorce situation.

(Note: Notice none of these pics have "For Sale By Owner" signs. That's because most deals I've found are insider deals - these sellers just don't want to take the time to have so many people go through their homes. Most times, they'd rather work with the park manager to help them find a buyer - this is where I come in).

I hope this has helped to show you the process I use of evaluating and prioritizing the homes I pursue based on a quick outside drive by evaluation.

When it boils down to it, I only pursue opportunities that I feel comfortable working with. Again, it's all a matter of comfort level and personality.

Happy investing!

p.s. Feel free to leave comments on any post either here and/or my Facebook Page. Comments are always welcome, thanks for reading!